https://youtu.be/0v5RiMdSqwk?t=3600
"If there are whole chunks of populations that you only have pejorative straw-man versions of where you can't explain why they think what they think without making them dumb or bad, you should be dubious of your own modeling...You should seek harder to take in the news that they take in for a week, for a day...If you feel a combination of outraged, scared, emotional, and very certain, with a strong enemy hypothesis orientation, you have been captured by somebody's narrative warfare and you think it's your own thinking...Even if you win at a local battle, whatever technologies you use to win the other side will reverse engineer...and you're just escalating an arms race, you're not moving towards real shared sense making and coordination.”